Posts by darth frosty

During a CO visit my wife was out in service and the PO (who is a good friend of ours and still the only one who calls to see how we are doing) Told her that someone had made an accusation against me. It seems that I was going out to clubs and getting drunk(Now I will say that I did go out to clubs and drink but nowhere near as much and often as was represented.) Naturally my wife told me about this. Me being the direct no nonsense person I am, I went to the elder and asked him who made such accusations? This is where what little faith I had in the organization or the people in it crumbled. I was told that it was someone from another hall, that said they saw me. Now I'm the type of guy who doesn't hang with many people. It is very few who I term, in my heart and by my actions, a friend. So hearing this and being able to count on one hand the number of people I hang out with, let alone drink with...I am now puzzled. SO, I go to my 'friend' and tell him whats going on (at this point we are in the same congo.) He says he will try to find out what the deal is. This goes on for about 2 months with the elders knowing that they have to talk to me cause the allegation was made but scared( and I do mean afraid, they are all aware that I will turn the bible scripture's that allow me to face my accuser against them.)

So during the public talk one sunday they say they want to talk to me. I am ready armed with all of the pertinent scriptures and righteous indignation. At the song between the talk and WT, I tell my 'friend' that the bro's want to talk to me and I will force them to reveal my accuser. Sadly for some reason I dont take notice that he left the meeting right after my telling him this.

So we go to the back room me and 2 elders. I dont think I let them say the first words. I hit them with the scriptures from deut. and acts that say you have a right to face your accuser and plead your case. They acknowledge that I am right and they will tell me who made the accusations. They then proceed for the next 15 minutes to get me to make a promise. For 15 minutes they asked me to not seek retaliation and to not get mad and how the accuser really only sought my best interest. After they felt and I assured them, that I would not do anything, they told me it was my 'friend' who had made the charge against me.

Needless to say my mouth dropped. They then reminded me of my promise not to hurt him. Y'no the funny thing is...they did not counsel me at all. They just spent all that time trying to make sure I dont do anything to harm him.

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will a judicial comittee allow you to face your accusers

by label licker in

jw
friends

we were told today, yes!

our accusers will be there.

is it true?

darth frosty

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My street crawling with JWs

by punkofnice in

i went to post a packet today.

as i left my house i noticed a couple of jws boring a house holder to death.. as i returned from the post office i saw the area regailed with jws, many of whom i know.

they didn't see me as they were busy trying to foist leaflets onto people.

darth frosty

I saw some witlesses doing the pioneer stroll to the hall.

Now picture this there is a hall in downtown dfetroit accross from where the tigers play. As you can imagine on a saturday morning not much traffic. There is 2 routes these witlesses could've taken...walk the lil street that the ballpark is on (nobody else on that street.) Or they could go up one block to the MAIN STREET THAT DIVIDES DETROIT that will (and did) have some people walking on it, now what styreet do you think the Dubs was walking down?

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

darth frosty

I have the bethel entrants manual somewhere. I posted it 3-4 yrs ago but the link is dead.

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

darth frosty

We need a whole separate thread on the people who if we see now are getting an automatic beatdown

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

darth frosty

The name doesn't ring a bell. Of course I have forgotten a lot of the names of people I work with there.

Ah yes the basketball court and signing your name up for the next game. There are plenty of stories to be told there as well.

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

darth frosty

Yep I was at brooklyn I worked in the bindry and in the garage

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

darth frosty

I 1st heard the term when I arrived at bethel in 94. The GB frowned on the term but you KNEW there were brothers in their smugness who just relished having that term applied to them.

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Anyone else an Ex Bethel "volunteer"

by BackseatDevil in

i was wondering if there were any other ex-bethelites on here.

i personally regularly went for temporary work at brooklyn then was assigned to the farm for a year and a half.

it was... one of the most bizaare experiences of my life.. so i wrote it all down (finally, after some 15 years) so i won't bore anyone on here with the details of the story - because bethel doesn't show up until chapter 15... and for you straight folks, it gets a bit gay in two places... but nothing gross.

darth frosty

Over 1000 rules?

Key is the rules are not necesarily written.

Thats where asshole roomates with a hard on to make a name for themselves come in. I have a theory on the breakdown of your time at bethel:

1st year adjustment hell More n likely you were a shinning 'star' in your home congo and expectations are high. Your 1st month is like a form of boot camp of the seniors tearing you down helping you to appreciate that you are nothing special now that you are at bethel. You most likely have a crappy job that no where suit your talent or attributes/strenths. I mean its soo fucking bad I've seen dudes who ran cleaning businesses come and be put in the factory and I SHIT YOU NOT dude who worked on presses come in and be placed in cleaning?!? KH a hit or miss scenario friends are loving but apathetic cause your just another body passing thru and they dont want to get too attached. Roomate most often some neutered drone who has been properly broken and now set up as your example of whats in store.

2nd-5th year If you last this long you are finding your way. Its like 1 of 2 paths you can take you can take the happyt go lucky just trying to get along route or you can start the process of becoming a good career bethelite.

6th-10th year eew you made it this far and now your sad miserable future is before you. if you took the career bethelite route you are probably and elder now in the local hall and a master ass kisser. if things really worked well for ya you got transfered out of your initial crappy job and now have a not as crappy crappy job. If you took the happy go luckey route the road is starting to get rough. you thought you had a nice balence between KH and bethel but at this point certain things are expected. If you are any kind of normal you would like to get married. Marriage and staying at bethel was a tricky proposition. If you had enough time and a job of specialized importance you could probably stay if you had a highly recomended pioneer sister or found a commuter. sadly this is the fucked up way you start to think and look at things. Everything starts to get viewed and weighed thru the lense of if I do this can I stay at bethel? You start looking at stuff like room bids and the day your seniority will allow you to bid on a room that has its own bathroom in it!

10th-25th yr AW SHUCKY SHUCKY NOW!!! at this point you have weathered most of the bethel storms and traps and are a good career bethelite. Notice how no matter which path you took you end up here once past your tenth yr. At this point you are probay a bethel elder, got a room with its own bathroom by now and may be married if you so desired. You are probably a table foot and look forward to the times when the table head is away on vacation or speaking assignments and you take the table head position. You are revered in your KH cause you stayed and at best you are overseer in your work department. You are an almost perfect drone any light and hope is gone from your soul and you feel somewhat secure in your position of tenor at bethel.

over 25 years there are 3 major milestones acheived at bethel 1 getting thru your 1st yr, 2 making bethel elder and 3 ohh baby 3 when you pick up the moniker...

BETHEL HEAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah they can talk all they want about how there is no such thing as a bethel heavy but if you survived 20 + yrs chances are you're a heavy (or at least aspiring to be one) what are some of the perks of being a heavy? well you are in regular rotation of of the good speaker/convetion assignments and you start to go on those zone and branch visits. See here is where the real perks and power of seniority kicks in. Whats better than going down to south america in january for a zone visit for a couple of months? Spending summer at the australian branch or france. Having access to the cars that are in the motor pool like the ones CO's have (or if your JR Brown get someone to buy you an Infinity when having an Infinity meant something!)

IMO during that 6-10 yr period something happens to dudes that dont get married. I'm serious dudes that were there 10 plus yrs and not married had this unnatural weirdness about them. You could literally walk the halls of bethel and point out the 10 yr lifers as I called them.

After 9/11 and they started the great purge as they looked to shrink the size of bethel and get the hell out of NY I thought of these poor slubs who had in truth given up their sanity to this F'd up organization. I knew one cat who was there like 20 yrs tried to get married and they told him he wouldn't be able to bring a wife to bethel. Dude scrapped his marriage plans only to be gutted in the purge years later anyway. SMDH!